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ZAP's MIDWEEK REPORT & LANDA GLOBAL UPDATE -- NOV. 20,2014
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 19:36:45 -0500
I HAVE TRIED TO WAIT UNTIL I GOT THE CONFIRMATION OF THE TRN GOING LIVE, BUT AS OF THIS WRITING, I STILL CAN NOT CONFIRM IT. HAVE TO BE PATIENT.
ALL OTHER MATTERS ARE MOVING FORWARD VERY QUICKLY ON THE WORLD STAGE INCLUDING THE PREPARATIONS FOR THE GCR, RV, ETC. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY IMPEDIMENTS TO THE PROCESS SO I ASSUME ALL IS ON TRACK AS PREVIOUSLY STATED.
ONE ITEM OF NOTE IS THE QUESTION OF THE PROSPERITY PACKAGES.
Those of us who have been in this for twenty years or more would like to know why prosperity packages along with fines and penalties are never addressed. We all know projects are vitally important, but to those of us who have been waiting for over two decades we need this information. There are many of us who are literally a dying breed who can help where we want to with the funds from the prosperity packages. Not to the magnitude of projects, but on a real grass roots level for individuals and groups.
Please address this question on your next report. We have been incredibly patient to this point, but many are losing faith in all of it. To many of the old timers a lot of the lingo is both esoteric and arcane. We need straight talk as to how and when we receive our "Blessings."
YES, I AND MY TEAMS AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE FOCUSED ON THE PROJECTS. THE PROSPERITY PROGRAMS ARE NOT OUR THING, AND WE DO NOT PARTICIPATE THERE. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SUCH PROGRAMS, AND I HAVE A REASONABLE KNOWLEDGE BASE OF THESE THINGS. I HAVE MADE INQUIRIES, AND HAVE TALKED TO SOME OF THE TRUSTEES AND DESIGNATED “CONTROLLERS”.
THEY ALL ARE AWAITING INSTRUCTIONS AND INFORMATION REGARDING THESE PROGRAMS. SO THAT TELLS ME THAT THE RADIO BLACKOUT SURROUNDING THESE PROGRAMS IS THE SAME AS THAT OF THE RADIO SILENCE SURROUNDING THE GLOBAL RESET AND ITS FUNCTIONS.
HOWEVER, THE GENERAL CONSENSUS AT THE TOP IS THAT WHEN THE TRN IS FORMALLY ANNOUNCED AND THE RESET AND GCR COMPLETED, THEN AND ONLY THEN CAN WE EXPECT THESE PROGRAMS TO START PAYING OUT.
WHILE I WAS WRITING THIS, I GOT A CALL (20 MINUTES LONG). THE NEWEST NEWS ON THE TRN IS THAT IT WILL BE ANNOUNCED IN THE NEW YEAR IN JANUARY.
THIS SUCKS THE BIG ONE AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED, BUT FOR REASONS THAT WILL COME TO LIGHT, THAT DECISION WAS MADE.
WE WILL NOT HAVE THE TRN ANNOUNCED TODAY.
SO, ANOTHER HOLIDAY TIME FULL OF CHEER? OR SADNESS? FOR MANY THIS IS A BIG BLOW. ALSO FOR ME. I WAS EXPECTING PROJECT FUNDING STARTS IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, BUT WITHOUT THE TRN, THE MAJOR FUNDS FROM THE GLOBAL TRANSACTIONS WILL NOT COME UNTIL JANUARY NOW.
HOWEVER, OTHER SOURCES OF PROJECT FUNDING ARE PUSHING FORWARD AS THEY ARE NOT DEPENDENT ON THE TRN. I EXPECT THE FIRST SUCH FUNDINGS TO COME IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, AND ONCE THAT IS ESTABLISHED, I WILL ANNOUNCE THE VARIOUS SCHEDULES TO EXPECT.
WISH I HAD BETTER NEWS THAN THIS, AND SNUFFLES IS SNUFFLING AND RUBBING HERSELF AGAINST MY LEG WITH A BIG TEAR ROLLING DOWN HER CHEEK. SHE WAS REALLY HOPING TO TAKE IMMEDIATE FLIGHT.
WHATEVER NEWS I GET I WILL SHARE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE MIGHTY SLIM PICKINGS AT THE MOMENT. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME FORM OF PROJECT FUNDS COMING IN AT LEAST.
GOD BLESS AND KEEP PATIENCE AT THE FRONT. DO NOT GO OUT AND SHOOT THE FIRST POLITICIAN YOU SEE. THEY ARE PROBABLY JUST AS PISSED.
NOW, THERE IS A CHANCE FOR A MIRACLE. I AM HOPING TOO.
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November 20, 2014
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LANDA GLOBAL General MILESTONES and UPDATES
November 20, 2014
Current intelligence points to the TRN being officially released in the New Year. Time frames have been considered between one to a few months. Without the TRN in place as the foundation for the major releases, the time window to have this all accomplished this year may dissapear shortly, and this is estimated to be at the end of November, and all put forward to early in 2015.
If there is any significant change, we will be apprised as this process continues.
During this time, the Landa Project fundings schedule will continue on an altered schedule. We will be shortly posting the precise start of Project admission to funding under this webpage, and begin the primary compliance process on current and ongoing Project candidates. Webpage Project submissions shall be accepted in addition to current efforts.
A special section devoted to online Project submissions shall be built herein, with the goal having an online presence available to interact on funding and other requirements of a Project submission. The required infrastructure will shortly be available with sufficient offices to service select global areas for the benefit of local Project applications.
We look forward to being of good service, and the beginning of many major and minor Project starts for the benefit of our Humanity.
IRAQI DINAR -- RECENTLY BEING SAID -- TNT TONY'S CONFERENCE CALL (LONG)
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*** Iraqi dinar, recently being said *** / TNT Tony's conference call (long)
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Date: Wednesday, 19-Nov-2014 18:07:16
Hi, Folks -
Found at dinardetectives.com/updates:
11-19-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Wednesday, November 19, 2014, and it’s One-question Wednesday! We might read a few questions from the forum, too. I usually go right down the line, I don’t know if they are the best questions. If somebody else wants to find the best ones…
For those people under 5-6’ of snow, I really feel sorry for you, but better you than me. I lived through it in ND, Indiana…even looking at it makes me cold. I’m going to chase the sun when this is over, all around the world, wherever it’s summertime! It’s going to be a good day, but not a super-fantastic day, but it will be a great day because things are still happening. It is going to be One-question Wednesday, so make it a good question that applies to everyone, if possible.
It is NOT going to be a superfantastic day today – that much everyone has told us – but that doesn’t mean tomorrow won’t be. It might be a super-fantastic weekend, though.
Pam: If you announced it is NOT a superfantastic day, maybe that will make it come through!
Tony: They wont let me be that right!
DC: Like normal, east to west, everyone is cued up in Iraq and ready to go. The CBI has run through final checks again, with interior, finance and defense, everyone has their game faces on. The PM is actively engaged in that, too. The information we have is that they are actively coordinating with IMF+BIS, ready to do this any moment, but it might take another day or two to check their final points for the 15th time, after some recent changes. They want to make sure everything is perfectly in line and ready to go again.
Iraqi television is running the same things in term of ‘reform is occurring’, the finance ministers are on, CBI is waiting for the timing to be right… the same things they have been running for the last week. The frustration is there in Iraq, and they have been told in the mosques that this is waiting on the CBI to do it and the PM to announce it. They are being encouraged to watch television, certain websites, etc. The UST+BIS have done a few tweaks Monday and yesterday and they are waiting on that.
There have been some unfortunate bombings, but the ISIL situation is improving overall. They are moving forward on that front. Everyone is well aware of the frustration and why hasn’t this been done already? Recent news and interviews has calmed that down a little bit but not for more than a day or so. That is widely known in Iraq, most countries and intelligence agencies.
Tony: On television they are announcing all the relevant meetings today with public acknowledgments – they wanted to do something today in public. The new financial adviser has been announced – Saila and Shabibi (sp?) The whole world knows that is who is involved and who is advising them.
DC: They are former governor and assistant governor of the CBI – they have tremendous standing have been involved in this process for the last decade.
Tony: They are announcing that ISIL is in retreat, both on Iraqi and US news. For the last weeks and months, Iraq has been pushing and complaining that they are ready to go and the US is holding them back. Now everyone is ready to go and Iraq is holding everything back! They say it’s all done and complete, and now they are waiting for the right timing. How can that be?!
DC: Good question! We are all saying “What do you mean, you need another couple days to get your s—t together?!” There were a few tweaks, but all the same! The folks in the CBI and finance ministry are saying that this feels like a whole ball of BandAids, so they want to make sure that after all this prep, there is nothing someone hasn’t spotted as a second-order effect. They want to make sure that when they say Go, the US won’t hold them up again. It’s their show, and they want to make darn sure it’s perfect. They don’t think they should rush it out because of last minute changes to make US politicians happy.
Tony: This is now making us nervous. We don’t want another 24-48 hours for them to come up with more problems. But there is something expected for this next week.
DC: In the USA, the UN is actively champing at the bit with the Chapter VII release; that has to have the RV in it and it’s already a year and a half late. They are keeping as much light on this process as possible. The US is now saying Go, and now Iraq is hesitating. The US is supporting them getting this done. Many exchanges are occurring in accordance with the directive to crank it up last week, and that is being supported by all the banks and institutions. These are people with SKRs plus some random folks selected by the banks. How that list is generated we do not know, but it’s happening in at least five locations and probably more. The banks are ready and brushing off waiting on Iraq. BIS+IMF have given control and timing back to Iraq, and they are trying to keep everyone in line as Iraq does its final checks. Politicians in both parties are trying to move this along, talking to the banks about getting DinarLand through very quickly. Some guys this morning are saying they want to get all of Dinarland through by Thanksgiving – meaning the people who are listening and paying attention to us and other gurus. After Thanks-giving, they will start the general public side. That’s it for news.
Tony: We know the payouts have been from 50 cents to over $20, high 20s, and people are getting paid out at those rates with access to their funds. That’s the good thing, that we are getting all this information. WE know what is really happening in different banks. Each bank has slight variations in their procedures, and we are getting intel from several banks so we know what’s going on.
We got a call from one member on TNT; a relative of his picked up his dong day before yesterday (for $300) and was immediately offered an exchange -- $379K for his five million dong. He didn’t take it because he thought it would be worth more later. If it were me, I would have sat down with the banker to find out about contracts, NDAs, and all the rest. Certain wealth managers have the authority to do that. I like that they are picking everyday people, but it’s been dinar up until now. This is the first dong story we’ve heard directly. It’s not all off the lists – he just came to pick his up and they made an offer.
DC: There is some controversy with the contract rates. Our general premise here is that when we had the big twitter campaign, we pushed for contract rates for the general public as well as the political buddies and insiders and bank friends – that is not fair. So, in order to avoid political scandals and illegal activities, some of that has to go to the general public. They changed the process, and there is a proportion of the contract rate pool is still available to the general public – us. We do believe only the initial people will go in and get it, and we don’t know what number that will be. They have some caps in place so that some giant whale cannot grab it all, and beyond that cap you can get the international rate. Meanwhile, everybody is concerned with all the exchanges going on since the beginning of this month. Have those been consuming all the contract rates? The rates have been all over the place from 50 cents on up, with a few in the teens with a few exchanging in the upper 20s. We have seen documentation and receipts, so we know what rates have been exchanged. The cynical side says that they should be entitled to direct the higher rates to their own buddies, while older, calmer hands are saying “that is not fair; you need to keep to the agreements we made in the spring.” We hope that by bringing this out in public, everyone will know, actions will be taken to keep it to the original agreement, and maybe some of those who have backed off from this situation will step back in, from both sides of the political aisle, and will look into this issue again. We want them to force clarity and transparency back into this situation they are trying to hide.
Tony: Those who are agreed to 50 cents or so, they may have to live with that. I don’t care that they are paying people what they agreed to 2-3 years ago. What bothers me is what we have been hearing in the last few days about the percentage they plan to give the high contract rates, and it is NOT what we agreed to. It WILL come out, and if it’s not a government audit, the People will audit it, and there will be trouble. What we are hearing is not fair, it’s not what we fought for or agreed to. Just be fair! I want people to know that they are planning this nonsense behind our backs, but we are fully aware of it. A lot of you ask how we know what rates they are giving out and to whom, and we KNOW because people are still feeding us information. It was set up to do the right thing, and we just want them to do the right thing!
DC: Those who are thinking about doing something stupid, it will come out and you will get slammed. Other people will be elected or appointed to the right places, and this will come out. The banks have just had a beating with fines, and they don’t want to play this game any longer, having lost in a massive way. This cannot end well for anybody. Any stupid behavior will get found out and it will not be water under the bridge. There are whistleblower acts here and in other countries that will catch any chicanery. Guys, you have to let those who have done this effectively in the past to work correctly now. If you are planning something foolish and unfair, think again.
Tony: You really don’t’ want to go there. Just play fair. There is a plan in motion (in Iraq) for the next couple of days, and there is also a plan to complete the “internet group” by Thanksgiving. That’s according to the plan, but according to the plan you should be at the bank already. Everyone is saying, “Don’t even start looking for it until tomorrow”, and then Tony can be right and it’ll be at the weekend. Hopefully we will see it on Friday, we will have a great weekend, and you can go to Black Friday like we expected last year. The exact same thing was happening last year, but so many things have been accomplished that were not done last year. They could have done the RV and done all this other stuff afterwards. They delayed, created a crisis and used all that to extend it to this time. There is nothing else that needs to be done. CBI is ready to drop the zeroes and make their announcements, so they are beginning to look ridiculous. Now they have the power, and people are saying, “If you screw this up, it’s on you!” So they are super-concerned to get it right this time, and of course we don’t’ know what agendas are going on behind that closed door. If we have 60% of the information, we’re doing well.
DC: I was talking to a politician who asked, “Are you really doing that live?” and I said, “Have you ever listened to us?!” You can’t tell?
407 caller: Why don’t we get together, find out how many want the contract rate, divide up the pool and make adjustments later?
Tony: Yes, we are the people. The only people I really care about are those who are listening to this call, who have tracked this for four years, who are paying attention. The other 4.5 million who are not paying attention, I don’t’ care if they get the international rate. The percentage we were told would cover you, and as long as it’s close to that number we can live with it. In the last two days, we are hearing rumors someone is trying to do something else, and that I don’t like. If they stick to the numbers they originally agreed, then I have no problem.
Caller: My issue is that my Congress people probably did get the contract rates, and if I don’t get it, and then I go to a class action attorney… It’s the ones who don’t sign the NDA and don’t get the contract rate that might create the problem.
Tony: If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t’ even take the contract rate. If you and your family cannot keep their mouths shut, and your drunk uncle puts it on Facebook, I wouldn’t take the contract rate. I would just exchange my first 100K and take the international rate, and then exchange the rest when the international rate got to the level I wanted. Some of you know that you can’t be quiet when you’re at the bar, and you’d go home and find your bank account frozen. I don’t know if it’s worth ten years of that, but I don’t have a choice about signing the NDA, so I might as well take the higher rate. If that is a problem for you, take the international rate and don’t take the chance.
DC: What about everything getting frozen? If they don’t know where to go… it doesn’t know they can find out where you got the money from. The killer is when a bank or UST employee publishes their information. That’s what will keep people up at night. The banks and such have mitigation risk monies set aside for this possibility. Suing the government is always a challenge, and the politicians put their money in blind trusts so that no one can prove anything. They can put their big money in blind trust where you just can’t track it down, especially en masse. Blind trusts are a great idea to keep everything totally hidden for those worried about such things, so look into that yourselves.
908 caller: I found the secret of getting on the call! You have to dial in at the middle of the night – 637 minutes, I dialed in at 3am this morning. Of course, I realized I have to put my hand up as well! I’m very new to this, about seven months. I admire you guys who have been doing this for years, and I feel blessed to have this opportunity. [Appreciation] Who are you talking to that gives you the authority to deliver the 800 numbers and walk us through this whole process? If they can give you that information, how come they cannot be more accurate in calling this?
Tony: I will mute you and we will answer your questions. Thank you.
DC: Nobody gave us the authority. This is a volunteer situation. Tony started this up because he felt people were being taken advantage of and being given bad intel. I listened and wanted to help out. They didn’t GIVE us authority, but collectively all our sources are trying to help all of you get through this deal. They trust that we will give as much information as we can, with discretion on timing. Then some actions that started this time last year, frankly a lot of folks in the US and in Iraq thought they were wrong, and then they started giving us even more information. On a good day, we are about 60% right and the other 40% we just don’t know. Even the folks doing it don’t know everything that is going on. I was talking to some senior folks in Parliament at 2am this morning, and they have no clue about what’s going on in Atlanta and Reno. They do have a good perspective on what’s going on in the government of Iraq, though. The banks have no idea what is going on in Iraq. So we are trying to put these viewpoints and information together as best we can. As for the 800 numbers, they know we can get information out quickly, so they came to us and asked us to help, and of course we would love to help that way. We made some folks mad, but they still will give us the 800 numbers.
Tony: No government agency said, “Hey, you go do this”, at least not to me! You guys know how this works by now. I volunteered for a week of this and now it’s been four years. We are now the biggest internet group, and we are the only ones giving live intel, day by day. The people involved in the process noticed this and decided to feed us because “Tony is less full of shoot than the rest of them” and that’s how a lot of different sources came to us. They wanted to correct what we were saying because they recognized that we are at least trying to get it right. A lot came to use through TNT. A lot of government, banking people, Iraqis have all contacted us – they are involved and want us to have the right information! They will talk to us when they won’t talk to each other. So no one authorized us, they just started to give us information, and they did run our numbers. WE have eleven agencies and 47 countries listening to our calls, with 22 intel agencies always listening to us. They even know what gas station I go to! They certainly know about us and see that we are committed to doing the right thing. That’s why I don’t talk about other gurus and what they say; they are getting some information from some of the same sources, but we get ours from a wider spread of intel sources.
DC: They trust that we’re doing the right thing but also shine a big light on our lives. A few months ago, they texted me to say I was speeding while I was on the call!
Tony: A lot of people volunteer their information because they care about you and they are doing the right thing. They are still sending us documents and records, anything we might need for court, and I can’t tell you who they are but they are standing up for you just as much as we are. The only difference is that I’ve got a bulls-eye on my back because I’m the public figurehead here and we’ve upset some high-level government people. That was never our purpose; we know how much power they have. Our purpose is just to be honest to the American people, which is their job! Some people took it personally, though.
559 caller: I just wanted clarification about what you were saying on Monday’s call, about the banks. If you move 50% of your money, you said they will probably close your account. In California, you need to put aside 58% aside for taxes, so…? Also, I’m more concerned about the Iraqi people than about myself.
Tony: They are more concerned about people just spending the money instead of investing for the future. If they see you are just spendthrifts, they will see that and close your accounts. They won’t close your account for putting money aside for the IRS.
832 caller: Iraq is delaying this just so you can look like a prophet on the weekend, Tony! So many are frustrated at the delay, expecting Abadi to make the announcements after Monday’s call. What is to be gained by these delays? Obviously Iraq has to get its new government in order, but it feels like there will always be something until the backroom negotiations have run out. This morning, I wondered if they were trying to burn through the contract rate. So my question is: another delay, let’s say you two are brainstorming, what do they want in the backroom to get this RV released?
Tony: On Monday, we didn’t expect to make a Wednesday call. Abadi’s announcement was scheduled for 9am. Then it was supposed to be 8pm and 11pm. We didn’t sent out a tweet because we go through hat up and down stuff every day. They had all the reporters in the room waiting! They just put the bankers and government officials through that as well. And then it doesn’t happen, so we have to look at the next time it can happen. When we get 24-48 hours, that is just too much time, it gives them too much time to figure out another delay. But when Iraq tells their people that everything is ready, you can’t keep stalling your own people like that. Somebody’s going to go to jail. But there is another time scheduled, I do know that.
DC: There are people still fighting this, but there is an insurgent war in the middle of Iraq and this would solve a ton of issues because rich people don’t fight! This is putting a lot of pressure on, especially with the US and the coalition fighting ISIL. IF this goes to hell if this goes sideways. Nobody wants some massive screwup that causes ISIL to have another resurgence or riots in the streets when they are currently on retreat. Abadi has created all this good will, and nobody wants that to go away because some US politicians decides to screw everyone over. That doesn’t make sense to me at all – there is no benefit remaining. They do seem to have genuinely turned it over to the CBI. The rest of us are highly worried that something else might come up, but the pressure is now very high to get this done. In every administration, they worry about how time and history will work on this; if they delay this, it will come to light and they will get skewered. I just pray that cooler heads will prevail, and they hope that in the end people will understand why there was a delay even if they don’t agree. They are looking at the exit now.
Caller: I feel a lot for the people of Iraq who are suffering through this. I hope this is done long before Friday.
732 caller: Thanks for having our banks. [Appreciation] I don’t understand this: it seems that Iraq has not RVed, so how can the elite get paid out when we are still seeing a rate of 1166 for the dinar. How are they getting paid if it hasn’t revalued?
DC: As of October 31, it did revalue, it just hasn’t been revealed to the public yet. Nobody thought that we would have this kind of dilemma, that they would exchange at one rate and still have the lower one on the public screens. This is causing absolute havoc and frustration. It’s the politicians who decided to take this risk, and it’s causing an immense amount of frustration here and everywhere else.
Caller: It seems like déjà vu from last November; it’s the Iraqi people who are suffering. Someone moves to need this along because their lives depend on this. Oh, what is your address again, please?
Tony: 9580 Oak Avenue Parkway, Folsom CA. That is where to send your letters from banks and Congress people to put in the book, the museum and all the rest. I know this seems like last year to you guys; here is the difference. Last year, certain banks paid people out and others couldn’t even see the rate. This year some banks are paying people out and others have the option, but they are choosing NOT to play this game.
DC: How they are paid is also different. Last year it was all forward-based contracts, and today it’s live with credit through the UST and other central banks like the CBI, with transaction codes that go through. It’s a cash rate with no funny business.
Tony: The places where they exchanges are taking place, the rates are live for them, and they control how many levels that goes down. It just isn’t public yet. They are also giving it to some everyday people. It’s not like before, with people with five million and above. Each bank has the authority to use their own discretion, and that’s different from last year. They are paying real people, not just politicians and their relatives. We are here to make this run a lot smoother for you guys, from a trusted sources that’s here to support you. We’re not doing for them, we’re doing it for you guys, so that when it’s over and done with, I know I’ve done everything I can. We still aren’t getting paid (and I might be on a blacklist) but this could be part of the slow rollout they wanted to do all along.
908 caller: Are you still the prophet? I have a question for you today. There’s been a lot of information about the FinCen in terms of them trying to turn your exchange into an investment.
DC: I know what the FinCen form, but Pam doesn’t let me on the internet.
Tony: It’s not about the form, but how much is left at the bank, the rate change and how this will affect you. This is what they are doing right now. They will exchange you at a certain rate, let’s say it’s $3.58. However, your wealth manager might say, “If you leave 20% in the bank for a year, I’ll give you $3.78, or $4.08.” If you didn’t plan to spend all your money in the first six months, then it might make sense to take that higher rate. If you are planning to remove all your money a week later, then they probably won’t want to work with you. But you can leave some money there IF you want their money manager to help you work with it.
Caller: Do you honestly think this is going down this weekend? If not, I have to get a job.
Tony: Live for today, not on tomorrow’s hope. If you have a job opportunity, take the job because you have to keep living. We don’t’ control this. I can tell you what I’ve been told, but I cannot tell you 100% that this is going to happen by Monday morning.
DC: We’ve been so close so many times, we cannot predict it. I would have done it years ago if I had any control over this thing. You have to keep living your life.
Tony: When they say 48 hours… I have heard that so many times already! They said that 48 hours ago, so I’m not getting all giddy about it this time. Also, there are a ton of exchange places situated around military bases.
617 caller: I have read that if you put a lot of money in an bank, they can consider that an investment in the back, such as over $250,000.
Tony: I saw an article on that yesterday.
DC: The FDIC guarantees over 250,000. If you have a bank account bigger than that, the FDIC only covers more than that 250K. You can get around that with a Cedars account and a few other ways. Barring catastrophe, that money continues to be yours.
Tony: There was an article on the forum that during the G20 they passed a law saying that anything over 250,000, the bank can use that money first to pay off any debt; any person with more than that amount is considered an investor in the bank, like in Cyprus.
DC: That has not passed in the US, and it’s not in Dodd-Franks. They could do that in the US but I think it extremely unlikely because it would be highly destabilizing. If we have a Cyprus problem, we have bigger issues than what’s going on in our bank accounts.
719 caller: I agree about the G20 thing. The other day, though, you talked about the draft Executive Order that could shut all this down if people get rowdy. I’m from Texas, and I think we should let Texas secede and then we won’t have to worry about crazies at the bank! To the PTB, please don’t jack us around any more. If you think Ferguson was bad, just try screwing us over. A lot of people are VERY upset now, and if they only release this to the elite, if we don’t’ get at least a shot at a decent rate, then they will take the contract rate, no NDA, and they will write books and blow this wide open. Personally, I think those on the forum should get first shot at the contract rates!
Tony: I agree!
Caller: You gave a great synopsis to the lady about the US stopping it and the affect on ISIL and such. Do you think the US will screw us over again?
DC: The folks that I am talking to firmly believes that these individuals are close to the end of the rope and there is nothing much more to gain beyond personal vindictiveness. Part of the earlier delays were because we were trying to work with Maliki, and he was willing to cut a deal if that benefited him or his friends. Since Abadi came to office in August, he walked into a hellhole, and he and his team have done a tremendous amount of work to get everyone back in line. So they had to do all this work, and now they are ready and boxing in the rest of the world with all their due diligence. They are getting approval from the rest of the world as they go along to block all the maneuvering. The only thing lacking is PM and CBI getting to a forcing function, and the rest of the world is proud that Iraq has that maturity and the votes to say (to the world), “You signed this and by God you are keeping to it!” They don’t want to see any loopholes, and that’s encouraging. They are doing this because it has been done to them all along.
Tony: They have already issued the lower denominations and the fils, and the people know it. It’s on the television, radio and the mosques, and it’s getting old. The Iraqi people are frustrated and ready to go on the streets. Meanwhile, ISIL is paying people, and the government can’t counter that with promises and delays. Now they want to make sure of last-minute changes.
Caller: I beg them to let Abadi look like a hero, let him take the credit, and give us the Thanksgiving we have been waiting for this last year. I hope our weekend starts Friday morning.
Tony: I just got a text dated October 29th saying the RV will be delayed for five years. We expected this to come out on the 1st, and every RV there has ever been we hear an article saying “it’s not happening”, and then it happens the next day. As DC says, “Watch what they do, not what they say.” That disinformation is for the masses who are NOT on these calls. That’s who they are telling, “Oh, the RV is a scam, it’s not going to happen for another five years.” Why do you think that ISIL says it’s coming out with its own money? It’s because they have put so many blocks in the way of ISIL exchanging their currency. They had to set up some banking regulations over there because they knew ISIL would try to funnel money through their sympathizers. They are 40 miles outside Baghdad, and it makes sense that the GOI and CBI need to think about that in terms of thriving 50 years from now. Dinar is going to be part of our reserve currency for the next 30 years, and we want it to be strong and protected. I try to look at the big picture and see what makes sense. THEN I can ask, “Who does that make sense to?”
503 caller: Your 3-D printer is coming of age in Oregon libraries, offering free workshops to introduce this technology to the public.
Tony: Libraries, Fedex, you’ll see them on everybody’s desktops. There are some hidden gold mines that will absolutely make people rich if you study the parts and the sup-parts. There are commercial, medical, military aspects… and you will be able to do things yourself.
Caller: The medical applications alone are amazing.
Tony: They made an arm for a girl with a 3-D printer for $2,000 rather than $83,000, so she can get a new arm every year as she grows.
Caller: About Iraqi culture, I’ve been told the common people live day-to-day without expectations of becoming wealthy. When you speak of them being frustrated, I hear that’s not as universal as you might think. DC?
DC: Arabic culture is different than American culture. We are typically more consumption-driven, and they are incredibly poor. They are very commercial, and you will leave without your shirt because they are amazing natural salesmen and women. However, they have had so little money and so much terror for so long under Saddam Hussein (and then Maliki) and there are still insurgents… they had lost hope and believed they would be hungry for the rest of their lives. You give these people jobs and a little cash and watch out, they will go crazy (in a good way) and it will be wonderful for the Iraqi people.
Tony: They have whole cities of homeless people, but they are being told they are about to be rich with houses, cars and flat-screen televisions. They are being promised that every day, and when it doesn’t come about, they get tired and frustrated. Then their leaders had better produce, or there will be trouble. Then ISIL offers food, money and warmth, and the illusion or security; you can’t fight that with promises.
Caller: I hope the Garden of Eden returns!
DC: Within ten years, it will be a tourist destination like Dubai+history. I think it will be amazingly wonderful to go there, especially those who have spent time there.
Caller: And all the neighboring Arab countries are beginning to work together; time will tell.
DC: A lot of poverty is caused by ISIL and other extremism. The local culture is not about that kind of mindless violence. However, that can be the only way some people can get food, and if that is offered along with some imam preaching, then they’ll take it. As soon as you get beyond that into a middle-class lifestyle, that extremism will go away. In all administrations, they should be given credit for changing the world constructively when they bring people out of poverty and into some kind of stability.
Everyone is ready, waiting on Iraq to do their final check-throughs. This is way to force the folks who have been messing with this thing to stop blocking it. Let’s hope they do what they said they would do. The US is ready and waiting on Iraq. Iraqi, EU, NATO, US and UN sources all say they will run this through today and possibly tomorrow, so we will get excited from tomorrow afternoon onwards. Please have a plan that includes paying your taxes, have a conservative amount that includes creating a reasonable income before spending money.
Pam: I can’t think of anything – maybe we’ll speak to you Friday morning, maybe not.
Ray: Enjoy Wealth-seeking Wednesday.
Tony: We got info coming in during this call, and we were a little upset about some of it, but it will be okay. Thousands of people exchanged yesterday, at different rates, and that means they are getting closer to DinarLand and then the public release. Some banks are authorized; some banks are not touching it until the RV is public and available for all. We might need to review what is okay and what is not okay, with some changes people are trying to sneak through. Other than that, we’ll watch what they do, not what they say. They brought in exchange people, bankers and security, scheduling them for later this week and this weekend, so we’ll see what happens. In Iraq they say that they are ready, and they have done everything required to delete the three zeros, and they are ‘waiting for the right time’. We don’t know what that means yet. Our intel says that all conditions have been met and we’ll see it in the next couple of days. We hope this time it goes through. From everything we can see, everyone is being told to get ready and BE ready. Finalize your plans, know what you will and won’t accept; set aside half of your exchange for taxes, and if you don’t have to pay as much as that, you can always invest that money next year. Plan while your mind is calm, because you’ll be too excited when this comes out! Enjoy the rest of your day, and we’ll see what happens.
LANDA GLOBAL UPDATE - November 18, 2014
NOVEMBER 18, 2014
The completion of all the requisite agreements, treaties, sign-offs and other functions of the Global Reset have been completed, and the advent of the new TRN (Treasury Reserve Note) is scheduled to be implemented on November 20, 2014.
We have been apprised that the schedule of the GCR (Global Currency Reset) after the official announcement of the TRN is measured in days if not hours.
After the GCR, the official historic bond redemptions will be announced. At this time, all six official channels for this official redemption period are on standby and completing the required loading of funds to the redemption accounts before the announcement. It is anticipated that this will occur in the next week.
It is also anticipated that the RV (Revaluation) of the dinar, dong and other currencies will follow the GCR more or less in parallel.
The process will complete well before the Christmas holiday season, and all currencies will become Basel III compliant.
This global event has been decades in the making, and the royal families and other sovereigns in concert with the Chinese Family have finally "broken through" the various obstacles placed before them in the implementation of the Global Reset. All institutions, agencies, and regulatory authorities are nowon standby to support the transition.
Landa Project fundings will begin by end of this month as first funds to accounts are underway now. It is estimated that it will take about one week to set the infrastructure in place after clearance of first funds.
Further information will be posted as it arrives and is confirmed.
ZAP UPDATE -- NOVEMBER 17, 2014
------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fwd: CHAINS!!
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:29:16 -0500
SAM COOKE LYRICS
(Hoh! Ah!) I hear something saying (Hoh! Ah!)
(Hoh! Ah!)(Well don't you know)
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, ga-ang
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, gang
All day long they're singing (Hoh! Ah!)
(Well don't you know)
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, ga-ang
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, gang
All day long they work so hard till the sun is going down
Working on the highways and byways and wearing, wearing a frown
You hear they moaning their lives away
Then you hear somebody say
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, ga-ang
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, gang
Can't you hear them singing, mmm (Hoh! Ah!)
I'm going home one of these days
I'm going home, see my woman
Whom I love so dear
But meanwhile I gotta work right here
(Well don't you know)
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, ga-ang
That's the sound of the men,
Working on the chain, gang
All day long they're singing, mmm (Hoh! Ah!)
My work is so hard
Give me water
I'm thirsty, my work is so hard
My work is so hard
Greetings and Salutations:
For today's message-- here is the final scoop for the day....... "Changes are occurring on almost every front. Laws, rules, regulations, protocols, disciplines, levels of privacy, changes in currency values, exchange values, level of precious metals, types of currency backing, use of digital funding, or not, European and Asian exchanges, plus South American exchanges, everything is topsy turby and you wonder why someone like the Zapster, as someone called him-- could even put together a review?
Every time a change occurs the trickle-down effect gets broadened. It might help to think about the way that humanity is changing as well and to recall that it doesn't take a majority of changed minds to impact the entire population. the 100th Monkey Experiment comes to mind. Reference: the Cultural Creatives -remember that all along you have been told you are change-agents.
Not ready for that? You are delaying the project side! Simple as that; so where are the energies willing to participant in Mother Earth's intention to bring Her tenants upward a bit. Never mind how; that is being taken care of; just be willing to see your position in this thing called Life. We are all tenants here. And no one has figured out how to take "IT" with them. Nor will they.
Cut the penchant to be a scrooge, a tightwad, a selfish nincompoop. Start thinking the "What if" question and let the divinity within you surface showing ways and means and ideas that you never thought you could ever entertain. If you continue to doubt, get off this train. It does not need you. Murmurers are a dime a dozen; you were not meant to be one of those. The huge machine-like manner in which the world turns takes Time plus readiness, and willing people to make a once in history upward move. It does not matter whether you believe it fully; it does matter that you are willing to not be part of the problem. Let those in the trenches do the heavy work and you be part of the brigade to help provide the wisdom, ways and means, plus energy for resolving a lot of what ails the masses.
Yes. You are thinking there are no solutions- there are; and they will surface and you will be a part of that. What do you truly need right this minute? The answer is . Nothing. If you did, you would have it . What will make life easier is coming. We need to earn it by doing the work of raising our sights. If you are doing that? Then-- You are okay. This is not the time to lose one's head nor to be a hot headed know-it-all. As big as some of the world's governments are, they could not handle this one!!! That is how big this entire project is .
So cool it. Settle down. Notice the messages coming from many angles. Some are just for you. And if you want to continue being more open to those messages, you will have learned the secret to faster revealings of all sorts. Now see if the excerpt from below fits you. If not, why not?
There's a book, "The Cultural Creatives," Paul Ray and Sherry Anderson which details a comprehensive study of more than 100,000 adults in the United States. Since the 1960s, a huge percentage of adults have made a profound shift in their culture, in their worldview, their values and way of life. In 1997 survey conducted in fifteen European countries shows that the figures are highly similar in Europe. A summary of the typical values of this new culture is they love nature, respect the Earth and are deeply concerned about the environment. They prefer close relationships with each other, and to help and encourage other people to develop their abilities. Plus they care about personal and spiritual development, and, they want more equality for women and all cultural groups.....P......
THE 77 FAMOUS FLYING PURPLE PIGS OF PROSPERITY HAVE ASSERTED WE ARE LIVING IN MAGIC TIMES, AND I AGREE WITH THEM. THE RESET PROCESS IS A TRUE JOY TO WATCH UNFOLD.
THE ASSEMBLY OF A STRONG AND EFFECTIVE STRUCTURE ON WHICH TO BUILD ON IS BEING EFFECTED BY MANY IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THE PLAN FOR THE RELEASE OF ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO OUR HUMANITY, AND THE INSTALLATION OF A FERTILE GROUND FOR PROJECTS TO EFFECT THE CHANGE.
REMEMBER THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS GEARED TOWARDS A FIRM AND LASTING ECONOMIC RECOVERY OF THE GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THIS IS NOT A FIVE MINUTE JOB. THAT IS WHY PATIENCE WORKS (IT ALWAYS HAS AND CAN BE RELIED ON). COMMON SENSE AGAIN.
THIS IS WHAT THE ELDERS AND CROWNS WISH FOR HUMANITY – A GENERAL RELEASE OF BLOCKED PROSPERITY METED OUT IN SUCH A MANNER THAT IT DOES NOT DISRUPT THE ECONOMIES (TOO MUCH) TO EFFECT A SYSTEM RESET OF A NEW GOLD STANDARD BASED (SEE BASEL III) SYSTEM. FINALLY THIS IS COMING ABOUT, AS WE ALL KNOW NOW THAT IT HAS NO CHOICE.
WHAT WAS ONCE HEARD AS A BACKROOM WHISPER, IS NOW BEING REPEATED, NOT DENOUNCED, BY THE BRICS, AND AGENCIES, AND BANKS, AND AND AND. THAT MUCH IS ALSO CLEAR.
THE ABILITY TO EXCHANGE YUAN FOR CANADIAN DOLLAR WITHOUT THE NEED OF USD, IS ANOTHER MILESTONE OF WHERE THE BRICS HAVE PROGRESSED TO SO FAR TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BASEL III. WE SEE THE RESET HAPPENING ALL AROUND US NOW. SO PATIENCE WHILE THE PROCESS COMPLETES IS IMPORTANT. THERE IS NO NEED TO PUSH AS IT IS ALL HAPPENING BY ITSELF NOW. THE RELEASE IS INDEED IN PROGRESS IN RESPECT OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS SET TO BE DONE, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE EXACT TIME TO BEGIN THINKING PROJECT. NOT JUST SURVIVAL.
I sure could use some good news and I am sure many others could as well.
I hope this delayed Poofness update has that in store for us.
I WAS IN THE SAME SPOT WAITING FOR THE GOOD NEWS, AND IT IS HERE, AND AS ABOVE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HAPPY THIS MAKES ME. THE PROJECT SIDE HAS BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME TO GET GOING AND START MAKING THE DIFFERENCE, SO SUCH A GLOBAL EVENT IS SINGULARLY WELCOMED BY MANY. EVERYWHERE I LOOK NOW, I SEE PREPARATIONS TO MOBILIZE MAJOR PROJECTS. THIS IS GOOD.
People are taking Zap out of context because they think he is saying some of the things he is only quoting.
Zap needs to keep his dialogue in caps and reduce the caps of others so that he is not inadvertently misrepresenting himself to others. Otherwise, he will get blamed for others reports and conjectures.
Yes, it takes time, but that is what is required to protect his reputation.
NOTED AND THANKS. I WILL LOWERCASE ALL CAPS SENT IN SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION. HOWEVER, I WILL NOT CORRECT GRAMMAR RUN-ONS AND SENTENCE MISHAPS. IT WILL BE A SIMPLE CASE CHANGE.
Good morning Susan. Perhaps it is too late for me to post this, but I'm hoping that Zap may be able to address this to some degree. I've begun reading this and it's very enlightening, to say the least. How is it that this evil, for lack of a better word, can be dealt with today, as it seems to have been going on since day one almost?? I think many of us are waking up to such a thing, but still, so many many people are completely, and totally brainwashed and completely and totally where these "being" need them to be. Seemingly the majority of people, especially in this country, are completely "conned". I don't see anything happening to awaken all these people, short of a miracle!!!??? Anything that Zap may have to say about this article?
TO ANSWER, THIS EVIL IS SIMPLE GREED AND EGO, AND CAN THEREFORE CHANGE. NOTHING WEIRD ABOUT IT, AS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION IS MISSING ONLY. ONCE THE OTHER SIDE IS REALIZED AS MORE DESIRABLE THAN GREED AND EGO (A SHIFT OF PERSPECTIVE) THEN, YOU CAN HAVE CHANGE. UNTIL THAT TIME, THE VEGETABLES IN THE GARDEN WILL CONTINUE TO THINK ALONG THE SAME PATH. THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.
GETTING THE TRUTH OUT THERE IS NOT MY JOB, AS THERE ARE MANY MANY OTHERS THAT ARE ALREADY GEARED FOR THE DISSEMINATION OF THE TRUTHS KEPT HIDDEN FROM HUMANITY. WHEN THE TIME COMES, AND THESE TRUTHS ARE ALLOWED TO BE OUT THERE MAINSTREAM, THE RESET WILL BE WELL ALONG I WOULD THINK, BUT THIS IS AN OPINION ONLY.
Wondering if you send a report out today if you had any info regarding the G 20 meetings which reports are saying personal deposits would no longer be classified as savings perhaps in conjunction with the hopefully imminent reset. Does this have the r/v and perhaps the P programs in mind for their control?
AND TO GIVE A BIT OF CLARITY TO ANOTHER THAT HAD A SIMILAR CONCERN, I SAY:
HMMMM…IF THEY ARE NOT CLASSIFIED AS SAVINGS, AND CLASSIFIED AS INVESTMENTS WITH VARIOUS RATES OF RETURN, WHAT LAWS ARE CHANGED, OR DISCARDED, THAT ALLOW THIS RECLASSIFICATION. IS THIS A REQUIREMENT OF THE RESET…? I WOULD SAY NO, AS THE RESET IS THE MAJOR PICTURE, NOT JUST WHAT ONE COUNTRY DOES TO CUSHION ITSELF. HOWEVER, THESE DECISIONS SHOULD BE NOTED.
MUCH MORE ON THE PROCESS IN PROGRESS I CAN NOT COMMENT TO YET, BUT ALL I SEE IS THE UNFOLDMENT OF A QUITE AMAZING TIME FOR OUR HUMANITY, LOADED WITH THE WONDERS OF A PRISTINE PLANET, AND THE ABILITY TO ENJOY ONESELF IN HARMONY WITH ALL THAT IS OUT THERE.
SO IT MAY BE SOON THAT ALL WILL TRANSITION, AND THIS PERSONAGE OF ZAP CAN TRANSITION AND GET TO THE WORK AHEAD AS WE LURCH FORWARD.
THIS IS MESSAGE NUMBER 77 FOR THOSE THAT WISH TO KNOW. I HAD NO IDEA IT WOULD TAKE THAT LONG FROM NUMBER 1: FAREWELL TO JAMES, TO THIS POINT, AND THE 77 IS FUNNY: LITTLE REMINDER FROM UPSTAIRS I GUESS AS TO WHERE THINGS ARE/SHOULD BE? REMEMBER A LONG TIME AGO, I SAID THAT UPSTAIRS HAS A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR? AND THE NUMBER THING ALWAYS COMES FORWARD WITH SUCH THINGS AS GLANCING AT A CLOCK AND SEEING THE TIME AS 1:33 OR 4:44 OR 8:08 OR SIMILAR PATTERNS. SAME THING WITH FAMILY AND PREFERRED TIMINGS OF GLOBAL EVENTS.
WE CAN ALL START TO THINK ALONG PROJECT LINES. THAT’S WHERE THE FUTURE IS AT.
GOD BLESS, AND HAVE MUCH FUN WATCHING THIS HAPPEN.
“GOD IS; I AM; WE ARE”
“BE GOOD, BE LEGAL, TELL TRUTH”
November 17, 2014
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TNT CALL NOTES -- 17-Nov-2014
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Monday, November 17, 2014, a day we thought we’d never see on this call… but things are getting much, much better. We will be direct and informative today about where we are and the process, let you know some things that happened over the weekend with the government and the bankingsystem. We will tell you the rollout plan and after the rollout begins, and how you can put a halt to the whole thing! DC?
DC: As normal, Iraq looks as if their television has been saying “the international economic reforms are ready to roll out, and they are in process” with a lot about international currency reform and revaluation of the currency, that they are just working out the timing. We firmly believe that the 8 and 11pm news will be more open and honest about where we are in terms of the RV happening there.
Tony: Abadi was supposed to explain the RV process…
DC: Right, in the mosques this morning and it will hit the television soon. IN the mosques this morning they announced in the four major cities of Iraq that “this is really happening now, PM Abadi is going to tell everyone this is what we are going to do and what we are expecting.” The CBI has explained the process, the things they have been seeing on television a lot, and the PM will explain what that means for Iraq. So in the mosque they have prepared everyone to be close to a television or radio today. They truly believe this is it, and ONE rate will apply to the entire
Abadi will explain all this. On the legislative side, they have passed more laws, clean up bills and a bit more on thebudget plus other normal business activities and ISIL actions. A lot of that has been dealt with.
ISIL is still in Iraq but is being pushed out, and they have taken some desperate actions that will come out in the news. It’s bad, but doesn’t affect the RV perspective, just affects the poor souls involved. ISIL has finally got the message that they will not be allowed to exchange, so they are doing black market stuff and law enforcement has been watching like a hawk. There is a some last-minute training for Iraqi banks and CBI.
Tony: So Iraq was geared up for celebrations Friday andSaturday. Six provinces are in the process of declaring bankruptcy. ISIL is creating their own currency because there are plans to block their exchange of dinar… so they are exchanging now, while it’s legal. All that should have made this happen this weekend. There was an extension asked for at the G20 this weekend.
DC: The US led the push to delay this further, and most others were gnashing their teeth and saying it is baloney. (Trying to clean up my language because my mother-in-law caught me using language.) Everyone else said, “No way” but they allowed a very short period of time in exchange for goodies for Iraq that helps their security and fight against ISIL. So they agreed to a minor delay to clear a few things up. Abadi has not spoken yet, but we hope he will be on the 11pm news saying “Here’s what has happened”.
Tony: We were gearing up forSaturday and Sunday, and SundayIraq was told “it’s up to you, do it when you want to do it” and now we are waiting for 11pmin Iraq.
DC: We did hear that a very small extension given, and we don’t know when it started…
Tony: It’s not 3-4 days.
DC: It is shorter, and it was almost a face-saving thing for those who were pushing so hard for more time. That’s Iraq.
In the good old US of A, a lot of the UN folks are at the G20, and there is consternation about what is going on, that it’s baloney and it has to be cleaned up. There was a lot of outrage, and as a result, Iraq has the ball again. The IMF+BIS have been doing their coordination part, with lots of unsung heroes keeping 100+ countries lined up, calm and coordinated, and adjusted to the right schedules. The banks are cued up and ready and to go, ready to exchange, cranked up even more in the last day or two, in anticipation of the public RV. We will talk about some meetings that occurred, not to be antagonistic, but to apply more pressure.
Tony: We will give you some great detail here – and you will hear it all day today. Some is negative, but understand what we’ve gone through as we receive all this information. We start getting a lot of bank information and some people got excited about it. That is how information comes out, in bits and pieces, some parts are good or bad, or“I can’t believe they said that”, so you have to keep digging and call all around the world and get all the pieces to understand what was really being said in this meeting. It’s like the five blind men and the elephant. You will hear other bits and rumors, but we have the whole picture now. Some others are panicking, but we’ll go through it the best we can.
DC: What we have proven time and time again, and will continue to prove, is that although many on this line haven’t had much money, we are learning ourselves and taking a measure approach to all information. If there is something wrong, there will bea problem, but as long as the general public is treating fairly, then we won’t object if someone is trying to cut a better deal against ISIL. If we are treated unfairly, there will be a problem. We are bringing this information into the public in order to apply pressure and to provide light in what is going on where others want it to stay in darkness. They really cannot keep this from us, even if they want to. In any kind of intelligence gathering, don’t’ talk about it. We and many others have documentation, notes, recordings and all the rest. We support and are trying to be part of the process in getting this done, and we pray it is close to being done.
There was a meeting last Friday that walked through the process for the US exchanges. There were several key topics. One is that some banks don’t want to deal with the general public. For two to three thousand dollars in exchange fees, they argue that they will have people who have never had bank accounts, and it’s not worth their while to take that on. So many of the major issues don’t want to take on the general public because they are scared of security and process issues. So for thelast year, the banks have been told ‘touch’, but others have just decided to back out. So the UST said they can pick their own customers. The prime contractor or main bank in charge of the US side is stuck with all of us. They will try to close some of those accounts quickly, yes, for the same reasons as the other banks. But there was a meeting about how the other banks would just exchange for their preferred customers, at various rates ranging from 50 cents to $28+.
So the banks got what they wanted in the biggest meeting and the smaller meetings too. Some have taken this as the banks not fulfilling their agreement to deal with the public; we don’t believe that, we think it’s just a few banks getting their ducks in a row. There was also specific executive action to say that“if things get out of hand” then the banks don’t have to do business with you and they can shut down the whole process if people are stupid. There are plans from Homeland and bank security to handle people walking through their doors. They can also handle the occasional idiot, but they are more concerned about the rush of public.
They also talked about contract rates and now the number of exchanges is going up. How we get into those is still a mystery, and we assume it’s through banking relationships and political connections and some ordinary folks are just lucky. There are still folks who actively don’t want the US or Iraqi public to have this, and they made their points clear; folks listened but said that they cannot accede due to rules and regulations. They can slow down or stop the exchanges for the general public, and that would force us to go overseas, and it becomes more complicated that way. That is the desire of the banks, of O himself or the key banking heads to create that issue. They would much prefer the general public to go to the banks here, although there are still some folks who want to block us altogether. But we cannot have some elite guys deciding what laws to follow and what to not follow. There is too much information getting out now to get away with that.
Tony: We want everyone to know where we are at this moment. Everyone was concerned that there was an active meeting to stop everyone going again, either before or after it happens, if it’s not happening in the right bank. We are not naming particular banks, but there are some banks who don’t want to be involved with us – us generally and us in particular. They hear people saying “I want to take my 500K out right away” or “I want to walk out with $20,000 cash”. That is not how banks operate, and I can understand that. You’d think that if you have money in your bank, you should know that banks don’t keep that kind of money on hand. They have to order it. There are a whole lot of people who will be like that. One bank does have to take the public, but they can close your accounts, even if you have 200,000 in your account. Some tier 2 banks are doing the same, but there are other banks and credit unions you can stash your money. If you take out half your money in 15 days, they will have you take the other half out. If this process goes out of control, there is an executive order to shut down the whole process. We have to see what they do. If we have to do anything after it gets shut down, we won’t care because we’re not getting our money anyway!
We know they are ramping up and there are two dates by which to have their VIPs done. Then they will try to get the bulk of us through in three days,then they can deal with the rest of the public. We could be wrong, but we get our information from a bunch of sources that had different pieces, so we got a getter, fuller picture. But everyone is ready to go, and they are telling the banks to go faster and get this thing going. That is a good thing. The more people go through, the rates and the locations, we have all that. They cannot say it didn’t happen! It’s like the bank letters that say “We don’t buy or sell dinar” when people sent in their receipts! It’s good to have all that documentation in one place because that ensures they will do the right thing. These are not stupid people; they know the law and although they can skirt the law amongst each other, when the public sees that, they are forced to do the right thing. It doesn’t makes sense to burn your own house down. It’s better to see it as water under the bridge, and we can exchange and get on with our lives. We are waiting literally any minute for the announcement to be made.
DC: The announcement will be after the fact, as in, “Thirty minutes ago, the CBI did that” rather than “the CBI intends to do this”.
918 caller: [Appreciation] I finally figured out how to put my hand up! I’m invested in dinar, dong and zim, and you have said that there will be future restrictions, such as being a qualified investor, with ten million dollars. You suggested that people could group together to do this in the future. What if you already have the currency but they are in later baskets. How do we find out about those baskets? Will there be restrictions on those who have already purchased currency, or is it if I want to buy more later?
Tony: Before, a qualified investor meant a net worth of one million dollars or more, but I understand that this has been changed to ten million dollars, supposedly to protect you from the bank and the bank from you. The person has to have ten million dollars before certain investments are available. Now they have three qualifications: if you are going to the country, if you are doing a short-term investment or a long-term investment, you are allowed to buy certain quantities. Most of us still would not quality. If it were me, I’d get together with some friends and set up a trust so that we collectively would be qualified. If you have already invested, that doesn’t matter – it’s for future currency revaluations. Future opportunities would be restricted to the banks, as I understand it. We also got some additional information on that executive order that changes the game…
Caller: I have the various currencies. If they come out in different baskets, where do I look to known when things have revalued?
DC: The qualification for a sophisticated investor has been raised to ten million, so you might want or need to get together with others or create a business to do that. Even Yahoo alerts will let you know when the rates change. Or you can let your private banker know you have a lot of zim (for instance), and have them watch for you. They want the commissions, so they will do that for you. It will be easy if they come out in different batches. At this point, we believe they will bring them out in one group. They do have some ways to prevent buying further currencies, but there still a core problem.
Caller: Will we still have to pay the Affordable Care Tax, which is about 3%?
DC: That is a tax, so the highest federal income tax now is 43.8% including that health care tax. So the smart thing is to set that aside to pay your taxes. Even if you pay your taxes, and it turns out to be less, it’s smart to let that money sit in a conservative place somewhere until you get past April 2015.
423 caller: That executive order thing scares me because there are some nuts out there. How many does it take to shut this down?
DC: We don’t know. There will continue to be calls and updates. Homeland and security have this locked up and we’ll let them do their job. We don’t know what is overwhelming and what is manageable.
Tony: We can go over different things to do, but you have to decide what to do, yourself, what you are willing to do to get through the process. You are definitely gambling any time after GO. Sure, I think the rate will go up, I just don’t know if you will be able to participate then. This is something that they will have available if they need it. This order only pertains to us. Forex will still go, and the hedge funds, and the huge corporations – they still get to keep exchanging. Everybody else won’t. That’s another part of the strategy.
Caller: Most of us are such novices… Most gurus say it will be an easy process. There are always nuts, but hopefully we will not be shut down because of dealing with them.
DC: It’s designed to be for a period of time, but they cannot stop international exchanges. But they don’t want you to go abroad because they have passed laws to inhibit citizens having big fat bank accounts they don’t know about.They don’t want to encourage people to have lots of money overseas.
Tony: We’re not telling you this to scare you. The meeting happened on Friday, we got the information over the weekend, it got hot and heavy this morning, so we decided to tell you guys. That way, when you start hearing about it, you will understand.
Caller: I vacillate between the contract rate and NDA and only having 20 minutes… I’m nervous about signing something I don’t have time to ingest… and then I am worried that the banks would be able to make up something and take my money.
DC: The banks have to follow the rules and laws and their reputation. They are more worried about the folks who will just blow through this, and any entitled jerks. They don’t want to deal with that. Bad customers are not worth the hassle. IF you are a little frustrated and something needs to be fixed, that’s different.
Tony: Homeland can freeze your accounts (with the NDA); the banks would have to issue you a check and say they don’t want your business.
DC: That happens, and they don’t have to give you a reason. Go find another bank that you like better. We believe that a lot of banks are paying attention to US, and we think this group will be better clients because they are on this call learning. They are more likely to ask intelligent questions about investments, and to take a measured approach. If you go in and act like a moron, they will treat you like a moron.
Tony: Over the last 10-15 days, people have been exchanged for cash money, with 10% the first day and the rest a few days later. During that process, the wealth manager offers you some options based on time and amounts, and those will change the contracts. If you are willing to leave your money in their system, they will want to keep that business relationships going.
Caller: Do you think there is any danger in signing the NDA?
DC: If you are going to be a conspiracy nut, I can’t help you. If you fundamentally believe that people are honest and not out to get you, then it will be fine so long as you keep your mouth shut. The ones I have read are very simple and straightforward – just be quiet. They don’t want to trip you up. If you brag on FB that you made 50 million on dinar, then they will take your money. Just be quiet about the exchange, and you’ll be find.
Tony: Someone won a big lawsuit and signed an NDA. The daughter bragged about it to her friends, and they took them back to court and reclaimed all the money. That’s all it took.
DC: If you have children, and kids/teenagers are basically idiots. You need to worry about your children saying things, so have a serious talk with your kids – even your adult kids who can’t keep their mouths shut. Some will not get it! So the smart play for people who can’t keep their mouths shut is NOT to sign the NDA. Take the international rate and run -- $3.58 is still a fantastic rate! If you can keep quiet, the contract rate is better. But be realistic, know yourself, and know if you can keep a secret. If you consistently have to tell someone something, go for the international rate and then it’s not an issue.
404 caller: Further on the executive order, can you share what that number is so that the worry warts can read it for ourselves?
DC: I don’t have the number, and I don’t know if it’s official or just a draft as yet. Some contacts say it’s just a draft, and “here is the plan”.
Caller: The banks that are not interested in dealing with the masses, will they still be listed on the call center lists? Will that push us to the one that we know will handle us?
DC: The bank the call center sends you to has to take your exchange. It’s like the telephone company who has to take the phone line five miles into the country if they also want all the NY customers.
Caller: So, PM Abadi at 11pm – is that Iraqi time?
DC: Yes, that is 11pm Iraqi time, which is an hour or two from now. That’s a time when they do a lot of announcements. Will they get it done by then? We’ll have to wait and see. Those were good questions that many thousands are asking, I’m sure.
Next caller: We have dinar and dong, and have split our holdings between a corporation sole and two trusts. I worked with a senior executive at Chase in my state, and she says they will not be dealing with dinar/dong, and I’ve had no joy with wealth managers.
DC: I assume these are the more tax efficient corporation structure? And that as many assets as possible are in the entities and NOT in your name? Good for you. In terms of wealth manager stuff, I would read books about initial investing, windfall investing, and that 30 for 30 movie Tony recommends. Just prepare. I guarantee you the wealth manager will call you when you have more zeros after your name.
Tony: Your wealth manager will find out very shortly after this is released, and she will call you.
Caller: After keeping in touch with her for about two years, the WM was so rude, and practically slammed the door in my face.
Tony: Call her and say you want her to recommend someone to work with.
DC: Many senior people have not been informed and some handle this badly.
Caller: I do have accounts in Wells now, preparing for this, and I’m working on my private foundation. Should we move this money out of the country?
DC: In-country is just fine.
Tony: I’m keeping mine in the country because I know what the laws are! I want it right here where I can keep my eyes on it!
Caller: We want to secure the money and invest it so we can create a legacy for our family and for society.
Tony: That’s a great idea. Put your money somewhere your current income, in case something happens. If nothing happens, you still have twice the income! Do that before you do anything exotic. Ensure your money is doing that for you on an annual basis, then look for investments that operate faster or with higher returns.
Caller: We will be qualified investors after this. What other currencies should we look at?
Tony: Even if we wanted to tell you, they would get mad. When we told you about dong and the zim, the rates shot up. We wouldn’t want to do that, because it could affect the entire math and equations.
Caller: What criteria would you suggest we look at, pre-RV?
DC: Only a few will be this massive a rate of return as these immediate currencies. Some countries have a lot of dinar as reserves, as in the 34 countries in the coalition; their balance sheets will look stronger.There are a lot of different ways to play this. I will be all over Iraq because I understand that culture, and the opportunities are amazing after the RV. They are all speculative, and don’t do it with the more conservative parts that keep your lights on, but for the friskier parts of your investment strategy.
Tony: The whole GCR is about bringing emerging economies and countries UP, so that is where I would look. It won’t be the same as the dinar or dong, but you will have more money to buy more shares of whatever.
DC: I will be all over the ISX, the Iraqi Stock Exchange. There will indices to play plus really good investments as well as investment funds focusing in Iraq and that area.
618 caller: Is there any benefit for going to at tier 2 banks for exchange?
DC: It’s going to be pretty neutral. It’s a 2% fee everywhere and the rates are supposed to be the same, but the lines are shorter. You will have a lot more sway because you’re a bigger fish in a smaller pond. However, there may be restrictions on international stuff; banks may not be in all the locations you require, either. Just think it through.
Tony: In a regional bank, it takes a lot less money to be a big fish.
858 caller: About going in to exchange and all the different agencies at the exchange, will they try to trip you up with your vocabulary.
DC: We believe everything will be straight forward, but there are a few points. They are listening to you all the time, and if you say ‘exchange’ they will direct you one way, and if you don’t, they will direct you another way to your detriment. When I first heard that, I thought it was BS, but I can learn, too. They have been trained to listen to‘exchange’ only. Otherwise, it seems pretty straightforward and they have been well-trained. Just say “I am here to exchange X number dinars” and let the process take you through.
314 caller: On Friday I was the ‘give us something’ guy, and I’d like some follow up if possible. We need about 200 people to exchange for us in 50 locations, and we can get 40,000 per day. Just give us a couple weeks to go in and do the buy + sell agreements to exchange at the international rates. [more of the same]. This is the fourth weekend in a row that you thought sure we go through over the weekend. There are four factions: 1) doesn’t want us to do it at all, 2) in 2015, 3) do it slowly, and 4) do it now. You are the two with the resources to ask for us to go through and then we can go through. That’s it.
Tony: we have heard everything you said on Frida and again today. We have done everything we can, we were told it was going these last weekends, we were told to be on standby, not to be more than two hours from home in case we need to do a call. We’ve gone through it all even this morning. We HAVE the information, we know who is We heard everything you said on Friday and again today. We have done everything we can, we were told it was going these last weekends, we were told to be on standby, not to be more than two going through, what lists they were selected from, and all the rest. We know the rates, that there were five cities where exchanges were happening , and nobody will get away with anything. They know we know! At this point, we have to ask if they are going to do the right thing, and they say they will, that they are gearing people up, training them, and people we know have gone in to exchange. We have asked those who have helped us in the past if there is anything we should do, and we’ve been told “let us do our job.” We have the timeframe that this is supposed to go and if that doesn’t happen, we absolutely have a plan as what to do.
DC: They only just started exchanging people in masse again, starting on the 31st. What I’ve been trying to do since then is to help get Dinarland through the process, too. It’s been unsuccessful so far. We have talked to banks and bankers trying to get the internet group through and they have refused, some through being vindictive and some through not getting it. They have ASKED if X would work or Y would work, but those plans would not be well received. We are trying to help both sides, be the mediators and keep people calmed down after some inflammatory stuff provided by some world-class people. We help to calm it down and provide a better explanation where we can. We continually try to talk to these folks to get some Dinarland folks through, that it would make things easier for all of us. If I knew I had an appointment in two weeks, I would grumble, but it would get people through the chute more easily. I keep pushing for people to be able to exchange and get through, and most of the US guys take it back to their meetings and they get told to relax, that Dinarland will be taken care of.
Tony: The information we got was correct, we just needed more information, other parts, to help us understand why they getting ready, with other parts in place in case of X or Y. We do take the information seriously!
772 caller: with the Pipeline and immigration, are we headed for gridlock again?
DC: Politically, yes. In terms of the RV, that is not a factor.
Caller: It’s a bitter pill when ordinary folks are tossed out on the street when the elite continue to thrive. I’m concerned that some crazy people will mess this up, but they will be Handled. [Appreciation]
Tony: There will always be idiots, and that is one of the factors you have to look at. I don’t know how many out of the five million who don’t listen to us will run to the bank and demand their 25k dinar note to be exchanged. All we can do is to have our strategy worked out and develop the relationship with the wealth managers so it doesn’t affect us. As for the politics, you’ve always had the power; we just don’t have the guts to use it. That original 100 were concerned for the country they were building; many of the current politicians are going through Congress with different values. I watched a movie the other day where the millionaire doesn’t even know how much a gallon of milk costs. They don’t live in their world, not in the real world. You guys will have the power and the money, which I will not be able to do. DC and I cannot even donate to a political party. There are people on this call who think alike, you know more about your government than you did a year ago, and you have the power to make change. Only 30-40% of the citizens here even voted, so if you didn’t vote, don’t complain to me. I know I got on my soapbox, but I am passionate about voting.
410 caller: I am not going to give my energy to those other concerns. I am going to put on nice clothes, be pleasant, and help the staff feel like they are they are doing a good job.
DC: That’s right! Be respectful of these people who are probably made that they have been told this is a scam, so they didn’t take up the opportunity. If we are respectful of the situation, if will be respectful of us.
Caller: I guess we are just going to see the 800 numbers come up? Or will you have more to talk about?
Tony: We hope to talk about procedures and process, to make this smoother. If they let people go through in chaos, then that’s what they will get.
785 caller: Is this really going to happen? It feels like one road block after another…
Tony: They tried to do this again this weekend! The US tried to stop it and all the other countries said, “No, enough!” There are other plans if it doesn’t go very soon.
DC: All the exchanges that have already gone on obligates them morally and legally to exchange everyone else. They cannot just pay out their friends and families; there are laws and rules for them to follow. If they don’t release this, some of those people will go to reporters with documentation. Some things have gone wrong, for sure, but there is a lot of pressure and I think this will get done quickly.
Caller: Do you know for sure they are deducting three zeros from the dinar?
Tony: They are deducting those three zeros from notes IN IRAQ. They are not doing that over here; we are doing the exchange based on what that note is.
DC: Hope we helped a few folks today! Iraq is ready and fully prepared, waiting for the CBI and Abadi, even got more confirmations during this call that people are antsy. In the US, we are prepared and ready to go through. We are very thankful for those who gave us information over the weekend. Exchanges are being ramped up, and that means we are closer. I have been trying to get on those lists since the 31st, but we have to believe it will get through and get done. We are very close. I hope, beg and plead that you all have a plan including putting money aside for your taxes and then having your money make money.
Pam: For those listening and getting excited or ticked off, please listen to this call again. If you are getting ticked off, you either didn’t hear it correctly, or you’re the ones they are worried about. We’ve already been dealing with you in the chat room.
Ray: I’m excited – continue to enjoy Magnificent Monday.
Tony: If it’s already like that on the boards, you guys are not understanding. We are trying to be transparent as possible. There are people who don’t want you to exchange, but that hasn’t changed. There are banks who don’t want you as customers if you are just going to run through your money. However, there is a central bank that has to take everyone even if they ask you to leave in 30 days. So leave! You will still have the opportunity to exchange. We just want to explain in advance what you will hear later in the day anyway. The US did ask for more time, and they got a very small one. Abadi should make an announcement imminently. The UN says that Iraq is out of Chapter VII, and they can make the call whenever they choose.Those blocking might be able to do some side deal or agreement,but Iraq has the freedom to do this whenever they choose to. Even if this just happens in-country (in Iraq) and here in the US, if there is chaos they have put something in place to protect the process.If we don’t treat the people with respect, they have something in place to stop this. Hopefully we will all get through by that time. That’s what we wanted you to know. All we talked about was another piece of the pie, the same as you put in place if you needed to protect your own business. There is nothing for anyone to be upset about – we are still there. They are in lockdown right now, changing the schedules and bringing people in. I’m happy. I’m still waiting for the 800 numbers, but I’m happy about where we are right now. We’re in a good position.
Enjoy the rest of your day. I hope to call you back later today or before Wednesday.